The word divorce comes up 35 times in the Discovery Documents and just once in the CBI Report. Shananns family has said Christopher, 33, confessed to killing his wife and children. Like a mercy killing. They dont want family, friends or S/Os to know so they secretly go and get this done. Just so sad. Coverts are nominally closet bi-sexuals. For some reason she couldnt fathom him cheating and posting stupid shit constantly about her wonderful life that was only in her head. Chris Watts has been arrested and charged with murder in connection with the deaths of Shanann, Bella, and Celeste. Then he killed his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 at his job site on an oil field. But what made it so difficult to interrupt the happy family fairy tale? In BENEATH THE OIL, for the first time the full extent of how Chris Watts was locked-in is revealed, as well as why he may have broken out of his deeply dysfunctional marriage the way he did. She ruled EVERY aspect of their lives and he complied with it all. unless you was there, and Im sure you wasnt. I . Hes wishy washy with both and leads them to believe one thing when he actually means another. Chris pleaded guilty to the crimes that . Going way back, back to the conversation she had with Mr. Hamza, back before Chris was shopping around for hookups, back to when he might have first flirted with Nichole Kessinger. I can also see just a natural tendency for women to support another woman in a scenario where the man is cheating. She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. I didnt believe it until reading thru so very many sites and articles like these with comment sections and such. He refused to hug me after he said he will try to work it out! If she was (if she was making $80K a year) she would have to end up paying him child support. I notice other than no longer wanting to be with him, he had nice things to say about her, she was a hard worker, people liked and were drawn to her and she got along well with them. Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage but she never suspected her life was in danger. It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. Cans Natz. And Leonard King said the same thing that it was virtually impossible to engage her in conversation. She realized she was belittling him, and too controlling, and expressed concern to Nickole about how shje was behaving and treating people. It really isnt a good feeling at all to know you are expendable and vulnerable. She would have received spousal support but there is a time limit on that. At a later hearing, the bail was set at $5 million, and Chris was required to put down 15% to be released. On August 13, 2018, Chris strangled Shanann in their Colorado home. Just Published! At first, Christ had told the police that he did not know where his wife and two daughters were and he hadnt seen his wife since he left for the work at 5:15 am on August 13. Cheating is their hallmark. On August 16, the authorities discovered Shananns body buried in a shallow grave nearby, and the childrens bodies were found hidden in the oil tanks. Chris Watts was charged with the murders of Shanann and their daughters Bella and Celeste on Aug. 21, 2018. I love how some people begin their comments with Im not victim blaming BUT or Obviously he should not have done it BUT . Millions of people face this everyday, I know I did. The murder of Shanann Watts and her children has reentered the public consciousness thanks to Netflix. Im sure he brought up divorce many times, her Im not so sure. Chris initially cooperated with police and. Remains believed to belong to their two children were later found nearby. This isnt the same obviously but it is the same mental state of mindsame thought processes. I get really frustrated with people who peddle multi level marketing crap and expect their friends and family to subsidize their lifestyle through buying crap they dont want. To me he comes off douche-y, fake and spineless (I agree with Previous Poster)I dont think he has much of an identity for himself and lives much too much in his mind. Shanann was buried in a shallow grave, while Bella and Celeste were left submerged inside two oil tanks at the site. But Chris was already involved in an affair: He had become intimate with an unwitting co-worker who believed he was getting a divorce from his wife. Part of HuffPost Crime. Watts told Ann Meadows, the realtor, on the morning the disappearance that him and Shanann hadnt gotten on for over a year. She states that she felt "very insecure" during her first marriage, and goes on to discuss how bad experiences transformed her into a self-motivated woman who built her own home by age 25. She had a brother named Frankie Rzucek. He has changed. What if he really doesnt love me anymore? She was an independent representative for the multi-level marketing company Le-Vel. The pair began dating and married in 2012, with Shanann quickly settling into what seemed to be her dream roles of wife and mother. People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. And they were his children too, not just shannons. We may never know, but amateur sleuths may want to look at a timeline of their marriage for clues. The American cable channel Lifetime released a film called Chris Watts: Confessions of a Killer on January 26, 2020. That is never a good sign. He also knew that if he left Shanann she would make his life a living hell in every aspect of a divorce. Weve never had a problem in our relationship like this. There are strong ideas that point in a direction (multiple directions) but I think it is going to be an accumulation of reasons that ultimately led him to lash out and commit murder. Spot on I thinksort of sums up the sad complication of life.she was no doubt wanting to do the very best for her family, hence her ambition which could be viewed as obsession. Chris Watts: Complete Cast of Characters | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. Shanann was on board with getting pregnant as this would calm the household down, giving them something to look forward to, and keep him in a marriage that was sucking the life out of him. I need you to meet me halfway. There was equity in the house but they didnt exactly buy low. According to their bankruptcy documents, they made a combined $100,000 and had a mortgage payment of $3,000 per month on their $400,000 home. Oct. 29 2020, Published 3:05 p.m. Place Where Shanann Watts Children were Hidden. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. way out by divorcing instead of killing her. I like nice things and having nice experiences. https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. Admittedly, Chris Watts wasn't looking all that great, already. The following day, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation and the FBI joined the investigation. She was a victim of the Watts Family Murders that occurred on August 13, 2018, in Frederick, Colorado. The Watts family eventually settled in Frederick, Colorado in a five-bedroom home they bought in 2013. Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? It is the fear of being discovered, of having to change your life or give something up. Both native to North Carolina, they married in Mecklenberg County, North Carolina in 2012. I dont think he seems like much of the lovey-dovey father/husband type. Shanann Watts worked for a multi-level marketing companywhileChris Watts was employed by Anadarko Petroleum (though he was fired on the day of his arrest) per The Coloradan. When it comes to Familicide, it is really hard to pinpoint and say there were absolutely no outward signs I do think CW appeared to be very standoffish and distant in the last videos of them on the trip. Chris Watts of 'American Murder' is getting love letters in prisonand he's responding to them It was evident in the film that Shanann enjoyed documenting her day-to-day activities for her Facebook followers posting life updates, uploading candid bonding moments with the family, and sharing news about her work. I believe he thought about murdering them as soon as he got a taste of freedom.>>>Yes. I would have never thot he would be able to kill his family, the people he loved with all his heart. Similar to C&S relationship. The two had a tumultuous relationship, and divorced in 2013. By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. I am also wondering if he had some sort of a recreational drug usethe Oxy being given to SW by CW for the abortion could have been something from his own use for fun with NK?! People divorce and move on with their lives. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. This is a lot of the same behavior patterns people go through when they get abortions. Later, Chris took Shananns body into the back of his work truck and also took his two daughters to the oil-storage site, where he first buried Shanann and then strangled both his daughters with a blanket and disposed of them in the oil tanks. They were also due in court just weeks after the murders because their homeowner's association sued. Chris and Shanann were from small towns in North Carolina. Shanann Watts appeared to be fighting for her marriage up until she was murdered by her husband Chris Watts.. Just a couple of weeks after the first trailer for American Murder: The Family Next . And yet we know while this was happening Shanann still wanted to do a gender reveal. They withdraw and distance themselves. The couple was blessed with two daughters: Bella Marie Watts who was born on December 17, 2013, and Celeste Cathryn Cece Watts who was born on July 17, 2015. During the investigation, Shananns purse containing her phone and keys, her car in the garage, and her wedding ring on the couples bed were found. The irony is in exactly the same way he didnt feel acknowledged, towards the very end she complained that he hadnt acknowledged her or their unborn child. I think he was motivated by the insurance money. He remarried and has kids. I never thought of Shanann possibly using these happy family videos with Chris before her death as a ploy to hang on to him or keep him from leaving. The final minute of the video posted at this link [an extended version of the clip above] is very insightful in this regard. Hopefully hell spend the rest of his life being emasculated by being another prisoners jail bitch. , but law enforcement has not publicly confirmed it. He thought he could sway this to work in his favor. should communicate even if it is good or bad information. You are a complete moron if you think she killed her kids. Separating was sort of a trial one when she visited family for 5 weeks, and divorce was push coming to shove in Chriss mind to permanently change his life. Strangely he could not give the exact date or year they got married. Shanann Watts was born on Tuesday, January 10, 1984 (age 34 years at the time of death), in Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, as Shanann Cathryn Rzucek. We also know that in the weeks prior Shanann was setting her husband up in her Thrive spiels as a great father and perfect husband and the best thing that has ever happened to her. Thats so sad. Due to financial reasons, Wyndham Hill Master Association Inc., Shanann and Chris homeowners association filed a suit against them for a fee of $1,533 in July 2018. I think the combination of having freedom, no matter who he was with, the upcoming gender reveal, the added pressure to their financial and health woes, Shanann badgering him for not responding to or caring about her when shes in North Carolina, and then the final straw of the nut gate incident and Shanann basically demanding he cut off his family with the exact wording he should use to confront them, and adding that they wont be allowed to to see his children again nudged him towards the decision to get rid of his family who were becoming too large of a burden for him. We dont know whether there had been violence during their marriage, but it would not be surprising that Shanann tried to project a positive image to her friends and colleagues, both on and off of social media.. "Chris these have been the best years of my life! #ChrisWatts, A post shared by Nick van der Leek (@nickvdleek) on Jun 7, 2019 at 8:30am PDT. They added that they feared that the release of the film will only increase the harassment that they had already been receiving. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesnt mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. According to Shananns family, they werent consulted about the film and only came to know about the film when it was already in production. In August of this year, Shanann Watts' marriage was crumbling. I think the parents were used as a shield, the children too, so that she would not be alone with Watts in a small hotel room trying to work out their issues and his absolutely apparent, angry and distant demeanor toward her. The first indication that something might be wrong in their daughter and her husband's marriage was during a family trip this past summer. Interesting he says when things were not going well in their relationship, thats when she poured herself into work, out late, not coming home at all etc. Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? >>>Firstly because he was having an affair, and secondly because he murdered her. If he was completely spineless he wouldnt have had the affair or committed the murder. Shanann and Chris jointly filed for a chapter 7 bankruptcy in Colorado Federal Court in June 2015. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. If that were true I dont think he would have killed them as well. Shananns job and income depended on selling the idea of Thriving. Obviously Thrive was all BS and she was facing a pregnancy all by herself, flat broke and facing humiliation from her team/peers and raising kids by herself. Why was their marriage not going well? Its absolutely ludicrous and I cant wrap my mind around it. "They were going to separate. Its the underlying current of this entire tragedy. Theres also the reality check that she might not have been able to leave the state if Chris filed for joint custody. Shanann, who posted on social media as part of her job selling health products, interspersed her sales pitches with adoring messages about her husband and kids. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Anne Sacoolas Wiki, Age, Husband, Family, Biography & More, Ramatu Ujiri (Masai Ujiris Wife) Wiki, Age, Height, Family, Children, Biography & More, Aaron Dean Wiki, Age, Wife, Controversy, Family, Biography & More, Larry Nassar Wiki, Age, Wife, Children, Family, Biography & More, Qasem Soleimani Wiki, Age, Death, Wife, Family, Biography & More, Maci Currin Wiki, Age, Height, Family, Biography & More. Very charming outside but empty inside. He smothered his daughters to death, buried his wife in a shallow grave, dumped his daughters' bodies in an oil tank, then he went to work as if nothing happened. Ruth Glenn, president of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, said social media allows for individuals to project a moment in time, versus the realities of their lives. It seemed like Shannon dictated everything with the kids and he just followed orders. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. Chris was moved to an out-of-station location due to security concerns on December 3, 2018; he arrived at the maximum-security prison called Dodge Correctional Institution, Waupun, Wisconsin on December 5, 2018. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Its not a nice feeling. Not saying that is right or even completely true, I feel that this would have started whether or not SW was out of town for that long. I know we cant judge a parent by a few videos, but I didnt see the passionatly loving parent or strong engagement between he and his kids. Her lifestyle was coming to a screeching halt. I am the louder, extroverted one in my marriage and my husband is the quieter, more agreeable type. The ex states Shanann states she left because domestic violence. I dont know who he is, she texted a friend on Aug. 7, 2018. and then giving long winded opinions about how it was ultimately her fault. There hasn't been a crime as chilling and tragic as the murder of Shanann Watts and her daughters in a long time. I love this man! She said he had an empty head, forget everything. It was so refreshing to finally see an actual, logical response. Reportedly, the documentary consists of the archival footage of the case with no narration or enactment; it also includes social media posts, law enforcement recordings, text messages, and home videos. In June 2018, Shanann told her husband she was pregnant with their third child. Likely when Chris did the same thing to her she may have had some insight into herself, that this is what happened with Leonard, which caused her to try her hardest to get Chris to talk to her. Chris was working for Anadarko Petroleum Corp at that time and the couple had to pay a debt of $44800. Chilling photos show stained clothes Shanann Watts was wearing when she was murdered and buried in shallow grave by husband The clothing did not match what Shanann Watts was wearing in. Remains believed to belong to their two children were. ET. In November 2017, Shanann posted a video to her Facebook pageto celebrate their anniversary. I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. She was a fraud plain and simple. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? And her house that everyone is talking about? A more assertive divorce narrative [to Kessinger]. She was desperate when she realized he was done. But I could be wrong. Why kill them? The only negative thing he had to say was that Chris was extremely quiet and that sometimes he would basically have to pry a response out of him. He then loaded his daughters into his truck along with their mother's body. He seemed very distracted and disengaged. From the . At all. Shanann Watts, the Colorado woman who was recently killed along with her two young daughters, was previously married to a man named Chris Watts. I dont buy him snapping, as you mentioned on a previous post, after Shanann threatened him with never seeing his kids again. But I work my ass off in a cold office every day to pay for it. Offline, however, the text messages between Shanann and Chris and Shanann and her friends painted a starkly different picture. They met when she was in high school and he was in law school. Once there, he smothered the girls and dumped the bodies of all three. Anger, as in a simmering boil. It all goes back to SW having a similar strong personality to CWs mom, that is probably the sole reason CWs mom didnt like SW. Called him a wierdo one one of her nauseating THRIVE pitches. Its for a specified amount of time I believe. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. Why do you need film footage of that? But one day she starts seeing subtle changes, then more physical changes, and a more assured and arrogant Chris started to emerge, she knew the marriage was definitely in trouble before she got pregnant. I would love to see a list that leads to Premeditated Murder. So why didnt Watts just get a divorce, like the district attorney said? By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. 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